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Crushingly Disappointing - Review written on September 06, 2006
Rating: 2 out of 5
15 customers found this review helpful, 3 did not.
Before you read this review, you must understand that there is NO greater fan of this sitcom than I. The whole show has always made me split my sides, and I love the show more than any other. Believe me, it is my favorite sitcom.
That was why Season Eight so seriously disappointed me. The magic was gone from the cast this season, and I think that the choices made by the writers and producers were huge mistakes. Frasier has a "mid-life crisis" during which he questions his career choice; every episode from then on shows a Frasier who is completely downtrodden and has no spark. One commonly-cited flaw about this season was how the writers chose to deal with Jane Leeves' real-life pregnancy: they had Daphne gaining incalculable weight, going off to "fat-camp," and then coming back only to blame the whole escapade on Niles' love for her. Needless to say, this put a damper on the comedic quality of all the Niles/Daphne humor. 'Bulldog' Briscoe was wholly absent from this season, as was Frasier's producer Bebe Glazer - and the void was glaring. Martin and Roz were almost non-entities, blending into the background and not really bolstering the floundering humor.
The reason I am still able to love the show, despite this uncharacteristically poor season, is because I have seen what followed Season Eight. The Final Season (11) is wonderful again, so I know that the show turned around eventually. Hopefully Season Nine is again brilliant, and finds the characters having broken out of their individual funks. While the show Frasier is amazing, and my personal favorite, Season Eight was the most disappointing of all thus far. If you are a die-hard Frasier fan, you obviously need to own all the seasons, as I do. If, however, you just have an interest in seeing some funny Frasier episodes (but don't necessarily need to seem them all), this is NOT the season for you.
Still going strong... - Review written on July 18, 2006
Rating: 5 out of 5
5 customers found this review helpful, 3 did not.
I discovered Frasier on DVD and had the advantage of litterally consuming every season very quickly as I had never watched this gem on television. And this season, in the opinion of some, was supposedly the beginning of a decline in the writing quality until the resurgence in full force of the last season.
Personally, I never felt any degradation of the amazing writing and acting this show always displays. This really is one of the very best sitcoms ever produced, no doubt about it. Some feel like the fact that this is the season where Daphne and Niles become a couple made everything less funny somehow but to me, this new twist in their relationship was very satisfying to watch and still works very well.
This season is very strong and even contains 3 of my favorite episodes ever, namely "Frasier's Edge", a moving episode where Frasier does some serious soul-searching about his life, "Hungry Hearts" where Jane Leeves's real life pregnancy was cleverly handled and Daphne comes to terms with her weight gain and last but not least "Forgotten But Not Gone", a hilarious episode where Frasier leaves the wine club to start a segment about wine on radio.
Those 3 episodes are to me among the very best of the whole Frasier saga and I found every episode very enjoyable, never feeling this lapse in quality certain people experienced. Which goes to show that it's always a matter of opinion but don't hesitate to buy this one if you loved the other seasons. If you're anything like me, you won't be disappointed at all.
The only thing I feel is lacking in most DVD sets of Frasier is the fact that we never get any extras, although I felt like the package still deserves 5 stars. Only a few earlier seasons had some bonus material but still, we never got any bloopers which is something I really yearn for. I am sure it would be hilarious to see the actors break out of their characters I have grown to love so much. It's a minor flaw because every episode here more than compensates for this but it would be nice to get some bonus with the coming seasons.
I still watch every season of Frasier very often and along with "Friends", this is my favorite sitcom ever. Just for the acting alone, a very strong aspect of the show which goes hand in hand with the brilliant writing, this is worth watching over and over again. So if you liked Frasier so far, I don't see any reason why you won't continue to do so because this season is every bit as good as all the previous ones.
The Thrill Is Gone - Review written on June 16, 2006
Rating: 3 out of 5
5 customers found this review helpful, 4 did not.
By this season, Frasier succumbed to its own institutional status. So much of the wit and sparkle is replaced by a continued "milking" of the so-beloved characters and relationships.
Daphne and Niles get together - sort of. The sheer tension of their prior inchoate relationship is changed but it seems that the writers were not quite prepared to give all of it up - so we get this high schoolish courtship thing happening.
And the Moon family, as seen in season 7 and here, is just flat out not funny. Like the 3 Stooges without the wit.
So why 3 stars? Well, because ya gotta love Frasier and Niles. Throughout it all, they are so endearing and enduring as characters. As we got to know them better and better, we found that we could just not live without them, and so we demanded and got Season 8 here.
Kelsey Grammer gave us an enduring gift with this character, someone so human and reachable and yet so self-absorbed and funky. As the song "Jack and Diane" once said, life goes on, long after the thrill of living is gone.
Or even Frasier, we hardly knew ye.
Only Two More to Go!!! - Review written on June 15, 2006
Rating: 5 out of 5
4 customers found this review helpful, 2 did not.
Now with the eighth season of Frasier out now, there's only two more seasons to wait for arrival. Hopefully, by this time next year, all eleven seasons will be completely out on the market.
I must comment on the last gentlemen's remark about the CBS stamp on the packaging for Frasier. I'm not sure as to what that is, but I wouldn't be suprised if CBS does in fact own the series. Many shows cross-network like this for the benefit of money and publicity. For example, the show Friends was aired on NBC, but is a WB show (Warner Bros. just sold each episode to NBC each week). The only NBC show that I know for sure in our generation that is actually owned by NBC is the show Will & Grace as it shares it's estate with Lion's Gate. Paramount released Frasier and many of the shows Paramount owns are CBS shows (Touched by an Angel, The Honeymooners, I Love Lucy, etc.).
And on the subject of Paramount, I'm pleased with the release of this series as many of their other series' have problems or non-uniformed packages. While the first couple of seasons of Frasier are the only ones with bonus features, they've actually done a good job with this series in pleasing the audience rather than annoying the audience with mismatched sequences and packagings that only resulted in re-releases (I Love Lucy & Star Trek come to mind).
4 and half star season for a 5 star show - Review written on June 13, 2006
Rating: 4 out of 5
17 customers found this review helpful, 5 did not.
Frasier is one of the all time great shows, however season 8 is not one of the better seasons of this eleven seasons series. But as per other reviewers opinions (and strongly supported by me), an average season of Frasier (a.k.a. season 8) is clearly better than just about any comedy show ever produced. A strongly recommended series and those of you not familiar with the characters, I have added a small summary of the main characters of the show.
Frasier Crane (Kelsey Grammer): The lead character. He holds degrees in psychology from Harvard University and lives in Seattle. His list of selective hobbies include playing the piano, attending the opera and expensive charity events, collecting expensive art and participating in wine tasting events. Of course his main past time is unsuccessfully trying to curb his competitive nature - especially when it comes to his brother Niles.
Niles Crane (David Hyde Pierce): The undoubted star of the show IMHO. Frasier's brother and practicing psychiatrist. Niles shares similar interests and educational background to Frasier (he was however educated at Yale University) and is probably even more finicky than his brother. Niles has an aversion to bugs and has several weird characteristics (extreme ethical standards, strong food allergies, dusting the chair before sitting and so on).
Martin Crane (John Mahoney): Frasier and Niles' father. He was in the police force for long until he was shot in the hip during an armed robbery. Martin moves in with Frasier (bringing his dog and a battered armchair into the life of Frasier and Daphne into the life of Niles). Martin's no-nonsense attitude and straightforward outlook on life often lead to confrontations with Frasier and Niles, who aspire to greater levels of sophistication.
Daphne Moon (Jane Leeves): An immigrant from Manchester, England. Daphne was hired by Frasier to be Martin's physiotherapist. Daphne often relates bizarre tales involving her family.
Roz Doyle (Peri Gilpin): Roz is the producer of Frasier's radio show. Roz is known for her relaxed attitude (especially when it comes to men) and quick-witted remarks, and enjoys deflating Frasier's ego - a favor often reciprocated by Frasier.
Any way the episodes for season 8 are:
1: And the Dish Ran Away with the Spoon: Part 1
2: And the Dish Ran Away with the Spoon: Part 2
3: The Bad Son
4: The Great Crane Robbery
5: Taking Liberties
6: Legal Tender Love and Care
7: The New Friend
8: Mary Christmas
9: Frasier's Edge
10: Cranes Unplugged
11: Motor Skills
12: The Show Must Go Off
13: Sliding Frasiers
14: Hungry Heart
15: Hooping Cranes
16: Docu.Drama
17: It Takes Two to Tangle
18: Forgotten But Not Gone
19: Daphne Returns
20: The Wizard and Roz
21: Semi-Decent Proposal
22: A Passing Fancy
23: A Day in May
24: Cranes Go Caribbean
Once again the entire series is strongly recommended and not only season 8.
One ride too many on the Crane Train - Review written on June 12, 2006
Rating: 4 out of 5
2 customers found this review helpful, 1 did not.
I have been a fan of "Frasier" since the pilot episode and for the first seven seasons it was the finest sitcom on television. But time and new writers have taken their toll and it shows in the eighth season.
Although the development of the Niles/Daphne relationship gave "Frasier" a new direction to explore, this season lacks the oomph of previous ones. There is no stand-out episode, just several nice moments spread out over 22 shows.
We start off with the follow-up to last season's climactic "Something Borrowed, Something Blue". And while the presence of Simon (a wonderful Anthony LaPaglia) is very welcome, the episode lacks the zing and fire needed to make it memorable. Follow up episodes get better with great guest stars like in "The Great Crane Robbery" featuring an impressionable Alan Tudyk (best known perhaps as "Steve the Pirate" from "Dodgeball") who copies Frasier's dwelling a bit too much. Or "Taking Liberties" with Victor Garber (of "Alias" fame) being letter perfect as the butler Ferguson. And I'm sure Rene Auberjonois was happy to act without tons of makeup from his Star Trek:DS9 days in "Frasier's Edge"
Jane Leeves' pregnancy forced the writers to come up with a "fat Daphne" storyline to cover her condition. Which leads to the strange episode "Hungry Heart" which Daphne is forced to face her expanding waistline. Unfortunately the tone runs counter to the attempted farce of the situation and is more uncomfortible to watch rather than funny.
This season also marks trips to experimental fare like "Sliding Cranes" which carries two seperate "what if" storylines without being confusing...or sadly, not being rather funny. And more location filming with episodes like "Hooping Cranes" or "A Day in May". "Daphne Returns" starts of being cringe-worthy when flashback scenes are introduced (usually the sure sign of creative bankrupcy) when we see the current Frasier and Niles put into each scene, a very nice touch.
Bright moments include Martin's priceless reaction to Roz's secret in "Semi-Decent Proposal". Or Frasier's desperate attempt to keep his new love from reading a less than respectful email in "Legal Tender, Love and Care".
Overall, the Eighth season is also how I'd rank it compared to the previous seven. And while it's entertaining enough to keep "Frasier" from "jumping the couch" so to speak, it also has too many "dramady" moments of unnecessary seriousness (like Martin facing his shooter in "A Day in May") that reminds me of the latter, sadder days of "M*A*S*H".
Tidbits:
- Frasier's comment about the hairlength of a sci-fi nut in "The Show Must Go Off" seems rather out of character considering his hair was almost as long during the first two seasons.
- Jane Leeves missed five episodes because of her maternity leave. She would become pregnant during the final season of "Frasier".
- Where's Bebe? Where's Bulldog? And why does Lilith literally "phone in" her performance in the final episode "Crane go Carribean"?
A transitional season - Review written on March 10, 2006
Rating: 3 out of 5
49 customers found this review helpful, 3 did not.
Season 8 marked a pivotal moment in the history of TV's most acclaimed sitcom. Following the sensational ratings glory of season 7 finale `Something Borrowed, Someone Blue (when Niles and Daphne finally got together) expectations were understandably high. There was unprecedented anticipation for this season, but that soon became an albatross weighing around the neck of season 8. The departure of two of the series' longest serving and most influential writers (showrunners Joe Keenan and Christopher Lloyd) added to the considerable pressure the production team faced this year. Jane Leeves (Daphne) also dropped a bombshell pre-production by announcing her pregnancy which forced some hasty re-writing. Many considered Daphne's weight gain storyline in poor taste but it's difficult to imagine how else the writers could have dealt with this without introducing a baby into Niles and Daphne's fledgling relationship. New showrunners Mark Reisman and Dan O'Shannon (whose previous work included `Cheers') certainly had their work cut out. On top of that the show's star Kelsey Grammer also requested that the show become more `Frasier' centred, the previous season having focused mainly on Niles and Daphne's characters. It was a reasonable request, but sadly it led to some extremely dull character-based episodes like `Frasier's Edge', which had one wondering if this was the same show responsible for the fast-paced high quality episodes of yore.
It's not all bad news. There are some genuinely entertaining episodes this year, including the hugely anticipated season opener `And The Dish Ran Away With The Spoon'. `Taking Liberties' saw the introduction of a butler to Frasier's apartment, `Cranes Unplugged' has some nice father and son moments for Frasier with both his father Martin and his son Frederick, and `The Show Must Go Off' sees a welcome return to the Frasier/Niles centred farces in which they try and stop an aging Shakespearean actor from making an ill-advised return to stage (guest starring an Emmy award winning Derek Jacobi).
Die hard fans will not want to be without this important and pivotal season, and there's plenty to keep the casual fan entertained too. For newcomers though, I wouldn't recommend this as an introduction to Frasier. Season 1 is the best place to start for any newcomer as unlike many comedies this show really hit the ground running. Season 4 would also offer a good starting point as it's crammed full of so many classic episodes it's almost a `best of' compilation in itself.
Late-season renaissance - Review written on March 07, 2006
Rating: 5 out of 5
62 customers found this review helpful, 4 did not.
After ending season seven with a fan-pleasing twist, Frasier returned in its eighth iteration to fulfill it. This is the season that Niles and Daphne begin to date, and even though this development did take a lot of tension out of the series, it is possible that the writers felt they had nowhere else to go. Frasier proved an oddity while on the air: most sitcoms peak in their first two seasons and go steadily downhill after that, but while Frasier certainly had a strong opening, it had several renaissances during its run. This season was one of them, as it brought several surprises: Frasier having an existential crisis, Niles becoming a sports celebrity, as well as some others. In short, this was hardly a weak season and has more than its share of laughs.
Frasier's crisis manifests itself in "Frasier's Edge", which has Frasier reuniting with his old mentor (Rene Auberjonois of Boston Legal and Star Trek: Deep Space Nine) and coming to grips with a feeling of emptiness. Funnier still is the subplot in which food critic Gil is primarily happy about being nominated for an award so as to avoid going to the annual awards show his wife throws when he's not nominated. The episode also starts off the joke about Daphne growing fatter in order to disguise Jane Leeves' real-life pregnancy. In "Hooping Cranes", Niles (almost magically) sinks a half-court charity shot at a basketball game and becomes a local hero, which, of course, causes Frasier to become jealous. The final showdown takes place over an arcade-style basketball machine and unfolds much as would be expected. Perhaps the best episode of the season is "The Show Must Go Off", in which Niles and Frasier are reacquainted with an aging Shakespearean actor (Derek Jacobi) who inspired them in their childhoods to delve into the Bard. In hopes of allowing their childhood idol to get over the heavy typecasting that came with being on a successful science-fiction show and get meatier parts, the two decide to put on a play and have him star in it. It doesn't take long to discover that the actor is horribly untalented, and then Niles and Frasier have to do everything in their power to sabotage their own production.
These are only a few of the highlights, but if you've enjoyed the show so far, chances are you'll like this. Enjoy.