The Sims 2 University Expansion Pack Reviews



Amazon.com Customer Reviews

Love this EP! - Review written on September 17, 2007
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Rating: 5 out of 5
1 customer found this review helpful.

I love that with this EP you can take your teens to another level. Choosing to send your teens to college also make it so that you have additional time to evolve them. They'll have an edge over others when getting jobs in that they start at higher levels and can finish faster. You even get to give them that dorm life experience if you want. The thing is you'll want to start getting them skills and experience early because the more they have the more scholarships they can qualify for. More scholarships mean more time for school and they don't have to work. It's like real school only on the accelerated Sims scale. Get this EP, and you won't be disappointed. Just be sure you have a lot of memory if you have a lot of EPs because it'll run slow as heck otherwise.
Good only one problem - Review written on September 02, 2007
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Rating: 5 out of 5
1 customer found this review helpful.

I loved this game it made the sims feel even more real. I loved that you could apply for simoliens for college. My only complante was it said on the sins 2 web sit that the game gave a new age grop but it didnt unless you sent the sims to college. over all though it was a fun game.
college - Review written on July 30, 2007
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Rating: 4 out of 5
1 customer found this review helpful.

I enjoyed playing this expansion, and it brought added depth to already interesting game. Reason I gave it four stars is because I thought they over did it with a mascot uniforms and should have included more items in this expansion.
Great game - Review written on July 12, 2007
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Rating: 5 out of 5
1 customer found this review helpful.

This is a really great ep. Even without college, there's a lot of cool new stuff, and not just objects. There are now lifetime wants and influence meters (to get people to do what you want.) College is also really fun. There are a few paths you can choose. Basically, you can try to get good grades (knowledge), or become very popular (popularity). The other five aspirations (counting pleasure and grilled cheese from nightlife) still can be succesful, in a mix of those two paths. Romance can just do what popularity does, except for, well, romance.

I really reccomend this game to anyone.
Not bad - Review written on July 07, 2007
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Rating: 3 out of 5
3 customers found this review helpful.

I'm a big fan of Sims. This expansion pack was great but it didn't amaze me like some others. The main idea of having the university is a great change to help you develop your Sims' skills, from Cooking, Cleaning, Logic and so on. It also ads a new phase or age into your Sims lives. Instead of moving from teenagers to adults, you'll have a young adult before the adulthood. but that happens only when you move them into college/university. There is one thing that I don't understand in it yet. You can join a "Greek House" at university. However, all I found during "trying" to join it was 4 mad people wearing Greek costumes. It was very annoying trying to follow them around and talking to them to impress them so they can accept me into their club. It was very dumb. Any how, I'd suggest another expantion pack rather than this one. Probably "Pets"
Great Expansion Pack - Review written on May 16, 2007
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Rating: 5 out of 5
2 customers found this review helpful, 4 did not.

I didn't think I was really interested in this particular expansion pack. But many of the downloads on TheSimsResources requires this pack, so I bought it for compatibility.

It's so much fun!! I like being in a house with lots of Sims to interact with, without being responsible for them. It's a great way to build up relationships that they take with them when they graduate. Plus they gain skills that they can use as well once they're done with college. Overall, I'm very pleased with this expansion pack.
ITS WORTH IT! - Review written on April 24, 2007
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Rating: 5 out of 5
5 customers found this review helpful, 3 did not.

This gane is worth your time and money.If you live in Brooklyn, this game might be a little togh to find.So order i from here.I just got it yesterday.Its great.New items such as pool tables,guitars,furniture,bass, and drums.All new young adult age group.You must be careful though not to fail 1 semester twice or else you get kicked out of college and into the real world where you sim transforms into an adult.The time in University is different form in the Sims 2 Original.Time goes by semesters instead of days.Finishing college takes alot of patience.

-THE DOWN SIDE

-Never save the game while your sim is on te cell phone.When you return to the game they will talk evry minute.Forever.Until they die.

-The commuity Lot takes long to load.

-Only two universities offer fraternities and colleges.

-You have to claim a dorm by clicking on the door of the dorm you want.If someone else claims it first then just click on their face on the left side of the screen. Click on their door and choose "Unclaim Room". If you do not control that Sim, then delete the door. However the cheat

boolProp testingCheatsEnabled true

must be typed into the cheat window fist.The cheat window is activated by pressing Ctrl,Shift, and C a the sme time.

-There are only three universities.However this can be changed by going to [...]


HAVE FUN!
university - Review written on April 02, 2007
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Rating: 5 out of 5
2 customers found this review helpful, 1 did not.

very worth your time. i spent the most time on this expansion pack out of all my other ones. nice to make lots more money once you get your college degree. many more career opportunities open up with an education (kind of like in real life?).
Buy this! You need it! - Review written on March 30, 2007
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Rating: 5 out of 5
9 customers found this review helpful.

This expansion pack for The Sims 2 is an essential. It allows you to send your sims to college and while there they not only gain mega loads of skill points but depending on what they major in, when they are adults they can go right into a career and don't have to start out at the beginning level! Just think. You had your toddler play with toys that earned him skill points. When he was a child you had him use the oven for little kids that gained him some cooking skill points. When he was a teenager you had him read books to gain skill points. Then when you send him to college he learns a bunch more. By the time that kid is an adult it is going to have a jump start and THEN SOME! It will totally kick butt in life and in it's career. College is also a great place to make friends! If you're in a dorm then tons of potential friends are around all the time. You don't have to call people over or go out. They're already there! Since friends are the other essential in zooming through the levels of a job to the top, this is another big plus. And don't even start me on explaining how helpful influence points are, which I believe you only have if you have this expansion pack. So, get this and be glad you did :)
Nice game, but not for me.. - Review written on March 26, 2007
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Rating: 5 out of 5
1 customer found this review helpful, 11 did not.

Well, I never liked school, so this game is not for me.
But to be objective, you should owe this game in order to activate many custom contents. It has some good stuff, like instruments, new objects, so on...
Really enjoy the College Game - Review written on February 25, 2007
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Rating: 4 out of 5
2 customers found this review helpful, 2 did not.

I really enjoy this particular expansion pack. One of my favorite parts is that the Sims I at once had no control over, I can also send them to college. I like that you don't have to have a large amount of Sims in the dorms/house. I like that I can just put one or two in a dorm and take it from their. I really like this expansion pack, I'm glad I chose to get it even after reading some of the negative reviews for it.
Hours of fun - Review written on February 17, 2007
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Rating: 5 out of 5
1 customer found this review helpful, 2 did not.

I really like playing Sims 2 and I have all but pets and seasons of the larger expansion pack. The problem I have is with my computer. You need a lot of memory and a good graphics card for these programs to work otherwise your computer will freeze up.
100% Satisfied - Review written on January 12, 2007
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Rating: 5 out of 5
10 customers found this review not to be helpful.
Overseas shipment arrived in very reasonable time with very clear instructions as to how to load the game. Contact with vendor was easy.
I love the sims 2! - Review written on January 11, 2007
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Rating: 5 out of 5
4 customers found this review helpful, 2 did not.

I love the sims 2! I enjoy the yound adult stage that comes only with University. I also love the chance for them expand their skills and have more friends. The instruments are a must have as well. The new creature is a zombie. There are also new careers, I use them more than the others.
Adds a lot to the game - Review written on December 24, 2006
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Rating: 4 out of 5
3 customers found this review helpful, 5 did not.

Not as good a Night Life or Open for Business but it still adds some good things to the game and unlike Pets, it does feel like it is worth the money.
When Sims get better an better and.... - Review written on November 09, 2006
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Rating: 5 out of 5
3 customers found this review helpful, 5 did not.

Maxis has always done good games, but adding the university life to the sims was one of the best ideas they had. 2 thumbs up!!!
Fun stuff - Review written on November 09, 2006
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Rating: 5 out of 5
14 customers found this review helpful, 5 did not.

The University expansion pack is fun. You get to pick majors for your Sims, but you have to make sure that they do their term papers and study or else they get kicked out of college. There are also interesting scholarships that your Sim can qualify for, like one for alien abductees. I would recommend that you only try playing a couple of Sims at a time or else you will probably end up getting some of your Sims expelled due to Academic Probation.
hmmmmm - Review written on November 02, 2006
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Rating: 3 out of 5
4 customers found this review helpful, 14 did not.

I purchased sims 2 nearly a year ago, but ignored all the expansion packs because, i felt i was satisfied building houses, raising a family, trying to get mi kids in private school etc(all the neat stuff SIMS 2 has to offer). But then i thought, why not just get an expansion pack and enjoy SIMS2 in a whole different way...so I purchased Sims university. (This is hard for me to say cause I love SIMS 2 soooo but....) having sims university was a HUGE let down. First of all, I think they should have given more career choices relating to an individual's major. Take for example as a lit major, one of my career choices is a CRIMINAL...why would I want to go to college to be a CRIMINAL!!!

For Real I didnot enjoy Sims University...I should have waited for Sims pets (being an animal lover and all). Surprisngly I gave this expansion pack a 3....only because it is a SIMS.
To be honest it was a little boring - Review written on October 24, 2006
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Rating: 4 out of 5
2 customers found this review helpful, 22 did not.

This is Natasha Enya Luchow,it looked so fun but it wasn't what I was expecting.It was only college life.It wasn't a "GIVE ME MORE" game,it was a "WHAT A SNORE" game.


It was ok.
Some good, some tedious - Review written on October 03, 2006
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Rating: 4 out of 5
19 customers found this review helpful, 2 did not.

This expansion adds some good things, like extra aspiration slots and multiple aspiration locks, some good new items and social interactions (Hang Out in particular is nice so that you don't have to babysit your sims' chatting).

The college part, however, is tedious. It's optional, of course, but your sims do get some reward for going - the extra aspiration slots are available only to college graduates, as are the new jobs. The thing about it is that, in the non-university portion of the game, a day of sim time is roughly equal to about a year of a sim's life (baby phase is about 2 days, toddler about 4, child about 8, teen about 14, adult about 27, and elder [unfortunately] lasts somewhere between 30 and 33 days). While the correlation between sim days and years is not exact, it's close enough.

The university part, however, is eight semesters, each weighing in at 3 sim days, plus an optional 3 days after graduation before you have to leave campus. Using the 1 day = 1 year idea, your sims go to college for somewhere between 24 and 27 years!! The problem is that Maxis chose to focus way in on a small portion of the sims' lives, where they really aren't doing very much besides studying.

I don't play the Sims 2 regularly, but when I do play it I usually start out sending a few sims to college and then progressively getting more and more sick of how much that portion of the game takes over. I either just stop sending my sims to college or I use a cheat object to get things over with in a more timely fashion. This expansion would have been far more tolerable if they had not tried to break it down into four years with two semesters each. College should only go for about one quarter to one half the time that it actually takes, and unfortunately, that makes it very boring after you send a couple sims there, especially if you have any interest in keeping the various sims in your neighborhoods aging at a somewhat realistic pace relative to each other.

One other point of note is that the dorms put a serious performance burden on the game. My normal households run pretty smoothly, but the dorms are really choppy, probably because there are usually some 12-15 sims in them at any given time.

Bottom line: the items and interactions that come with this expansion pack do make it somewhat worthwhile, but the University portion itself was not thought out very well. It tends to bog down gameplay more than help it, unfortunately.
A whole new stage of life! - Review written on September 29, 2006
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Rating: 4 out of 5
4 customers found this review helpful, 1 did not.

The university pack brings to life the fun of university. It is up to you to make your Sims study or party their years away. I loved the new items and universities. However I do find that it can drag growing up to an adult out a bit. But I accept that for the added game play and new items etc. I would recommend this as a good addition to any Sims game.
Story about this game - Review written on September 27, 2006
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Rating: 5 out of 5
8 customers found this review helpful, 15 did not.

Jimmy and Mandy just moved into collage. They started to study right away. Jimmy was getting tired so he took a nap. It was a school day. Hint: Everyday is a school day in collage
Mandy tried to wake up Jimmy but no use. Mandy went off to class and rasied her GPA to about a C+. When Mandy got home, Jimmy was awake. Mandy and Jimmy talked for about a sim hour. After Mandy and Jimmy were done talking, Jimmy watched tv while Mandy studied.
Hint: Studying is known as research in this game.
Mandy studied really hard and got her GPA up to a B. The next day after Mandy went to school again and Jimmy stayed home, Jimmy got a phone call. It was his teacher. His teacher said that Jimmy would be expelled if he did not come to school tommorow. The next morning, Mandy was studying. And Jimmy was sleeping. School came, Jimmy did not go and he got expelled. Now Mandy is all alone.
Hint: After somebody is expelled they become an adult.
Mandy did reaserch until her GPA was an A+. After collage was over in 8 semesters, Mandy graduated and became a lawyer.

The End
Great expansion pack but it is time consuming - Review written on August 12, 2006
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Rating: 3 out of 5
3 customers found this review helpful, 3 did not.

I am really glad I bought this and it adds a lot to the SIMS2 - it is neat to see children created in the neighborhood go one to college. It is more interesting that the nightlife expansion pack I bought earlier. Although college has lots of opportunities it gets dull after a while and it almost feels like you are slaving in college yourseld.
Best Expansion Pack EVER! - Review written on August 09, 2006
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Rating: 5 out of 5
5 customers found this review helpful, 3 did not.

I love it! If you have gone to college you might like it more than others. I bought Nightlife before this one, and though Nightlife is okay, University is AWESOME. It is like a seperate game by itself where as Nightlife is more of an add-on to Sims 2. There is so much to do at University I think I will be stuck to my computer chair for the next three days! LOL!
It was good, but not great. - Review written on August 06, 2006
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Rating: 4 out of 5
16 customers found this review helpful, 2 did not.

This was my first time buying a Sims 2 expansion pack and I'm rather glad I waited and bought it at a surprisingly low price of $20. This expansion pack was fun and exciting while your sims are at college, but it gets dull after a while. The work you need in order to get a 4.0 average is fairly easy, but time consuming. The best strategy I found is to just meet up the required skills, attend class, type up one term paper (it boosts up your grade dramatically), and influence a person to do your homework. By then, you'll be ensured to have an A+.
But after a while, doing the same thing for the same semester is . . . well, boring.
One thing I also found odd is creating new college students 'cause they don't have any parents.
Anyway, the hours of gameplay trying to graduate is ridiculous. It's hard enough trying to maintain decent grades, but with the popularity aspiration (that my Sim had), she wanted a damn party every day. It's hard to keep up with a social life.
After graduating, however, it seems like your Sim never went to college at all. Sure, you had a major and everything, but it seems like it had no point.
If only college was faster! - Review written on July 26, 2006
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Rating: 4 out of 5
8 customers found this review helpful, 4 did not.

I agree with the person before me. It's really exciting when you first get it, but after that it is soooooo boring! It takes so much time to play college I find it a chore. I want to graduate so that all of the new jobs will be avaliable (the new jobs are actuelly cool) but I don't want to suffer through college! I will say, however, that the new hairstyles, clothing, and jobs make up for all that, and although college is extremely tedious, it's better to have the option than not. Just be warned that it is not as fun as it looks.
It's ok - Review written on July 17, 2006
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Rating: 3 out of 5
8 customers found this review helpful, 4 did not.

Well this game is really fun when you first get it but once your sim finshs collage you kind of know whats going to happen to the next sim you make.All you really do is go to collage,do homework,and write term papers.Its REALLY HARD to get your sim into the "Greek House" and if you do get in, you have to play as all of the sims.Once they are done with collage you play as a regular sim but with better jobs.There clothes for young adults are really bad!!For the girls there is only 8 new clothes,(estamated)and the furniture is ok.If your sim drops out, its like you play as regular sim as if you don't have the expanision pack.Its hard to fall in love and finsh collage at the same time.Well thats all I got!!!!!
Sims2 University - Review written on July 16, 2006
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Rating: 5 out of 5
3 customers found this review helpful, 9 did not.

This is a great addition to the Sims2. Loved the new hairstyles and clothes!
Not the best idea - Review written on June 03, 2006
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Rating: 3 out of 5
13 customers found this review helpful, 3 did not.

A little boring, the time in college takes a long time. Your sim needs to study and earn skills to pass college which leaves little time to enjoy taking your sim through the college life. You have 72 hours after graduation to move out, which means you can live the college life in that time, but you have to go through such a long period of studying and stuff to get to this point. It's fairly easy to be 4.0 GPA, but I've had lower. It might be worth it for the objects as Maxis put out a lot of nice clothes with this, I'm a teenager and the clothes in this expansion pack appealed to me way more than the original ones. Overall, if you spend a lot of time in 3 speed (the fastest speed it can go) college life will take you about 2 - 3 hours of continuous play to graduate from. Once I've used University I don't want to play sims that haven't gone to college, so I would probably say it was worth it... I only regret paying the $40 for it when it first came out.
Totally Rockin! - Review written on May 04, 2006
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Rating: 5 out of 5
9 customers found this review helpful, 16 did not.

I know I should have posted earlier, but for the past 2 days I have been holed up in my room playing this game, except when I have to go to school. I REALLY like this expansion, although i think I wouldn't have liked it as much if it hadn't been for the help of a fellow Simmer, MAYNSH1 (she posted a sort of tutorial to Uni on thesims2.com). Aaanyway, one of my favorite parts of the game is being able to join a sorority or secret society. I also like the new age group, and new items (once I get Nightlife, I am SO resurrecting Bella with the tombstone of L & D and the Resurrect-O-Nomitron!) and the new social interactions. Anyway, um, that's it.

~+~Burnt Zoe and the Toasters~+~ FOR LIFE!!!

Whee! It's a reed!- Sax player's joke
Amazing! - Review written on March 28, 2006
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Rating: 5 out of 5
8 customers found this review helpful, 14 did not.

Woah! this game is really fantastic! when I have bought the expansion for this game, my mom tried to learn how to play this game! Amazing! My mom is now certified as Sims Fanatic!
The Sims University Expansion Pack - Review written on March 14, 2006
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Rating: 5 out of 5
8 customers found this review helpful, 14 did not.

Great add on to the Sims. My children play it continulosly
Interesting addition - Review written on March 11, 2006
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Rating: 5 out of 5
4 customers found this review helpful, 14 did not.

Well, I haven't actually bought this expansion yet..in fact I only have the original Sims 2 as of right now. Tomorrow though I'll be purchasing this..and I consider it a fine investment. From what I've read (and I've done quite alot of research) this expansion adds so much more to the game than simply a college experience. I love the fact that you can start a career without being at the bottom of the ladder..a welcome change for me since I cannot stand spending my sims' whole adult life trying to get to the top of a career without any time for anything else..like a family. I'm terrible at giving reasons why people should by or do something..so I'll just give my own major, personal reason for wanting this: there's a cheat you can use in the game that allows more floors for building. Up to 255 I believe..which is fantastic since I've always wanted a monstrously large mansion..likely around 30-40 floors...which is easily worth the cost of the expansion. I might be mistaken on the cheat..but I guess I'll find out tomorrow for certain.
The Worst of all the EPs - Review written on March 09, 2006
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Rating: 2 out of 5
11 customers found this review helpful, 22 did not.

First of all, I am a teen, not a kid, I just am using my mom's name on here. :-D
Second of all, This game is SO boring!!!
-You go to collage with only a little money (Unless you use motherlode).
-It takes FOREVER to graduate.
-You have to make your sims study all the time and they don't have much time for a social life.
-You have limmited amount of cool clothes and you can get engaged in the game, but not married.
-This game also messes up your settings when loaded.
-It is super hard to get into a sorority house or be a greek.
I did not like this game at all and regret buying it. And I know good sim games, I have been playing scince The orignal Sim day 1, and I intend to keep on playing with Sims 2! Here is my recomendation to you guys: Get the Nightlife EP or the Open For Buisness instead. They are much, much more fun!!!
Sims on Campus - Review written on March 07, 2006
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Rating: 4 out of 5
32 customers found this review helpful, 1 did not.

Basically, this first addition to the sims2 creates another neighborhood. This one is a college campus. But colleges arent the only new thing in this game.

However, since the most advertised part of this game is teh biggest, lets start with that.

So, why send your sims to university?

Teens are giving the option to, at any time during their teen days, go to a university, previously added onto the neighborhood by you. if it doesnt have a college, the teens cant attend one. a teen sent to college recieves a memory and enters the "hidden" life stage, gaining them an extra 27 days of life without achedemic probabtion. Of course, your sims could just go straight to adulthood after their teen years, but where is the sim torture in that? ok, its everywhere, but thats besides the point. Sure, higher education doesn't necessarily
mean better jobs in real life as much as having a social network of friends wide enough to cover New York City, but in The Sims 2, going to university and graduating clearly has advantages, and huge ones at that:

1. Four new careers are unlocked to graduates! These super careers take
higher skills and more friends, but offer a lot more money, less work days,
and better hours! Along with these new careers are four new fun career
rewards. Here are the details:

-Show Business:
Career Reward: Dr. Vu's Automated Cosmetic (Level 6: Supporting Player)

-Natural Scientist:
Career Reward: Laganaphyllis Simnovorii (Level 6: Rogue Botanist)

-Paranormal:
Career Reward: Resurrect-O-Nomitron (Level 5: Medium)

-Artist:
Career Reward: Luminous Pro Antique Camera (Level 5: Wedding Photographer)


2. sims get aspiration bonuses at the end of each year in university. they also get money if they pass at the end of each semester.
Freshman: +1 want slot
Sophmore: aspiration change
Junior: +1 lock slot
Senior: +1 want slot

therefore, at the end of graduation, your sim will have had the option to change aspirations and have 6 wants and 2 locks, assuming they get that far.

so why wouldnt they get that far? In the senario that you hate your sims and are the kinda person who kills them off, unlucky sims who have been expelled from college(getting on achademic probabtion and then failing again) gain an extra fear slot for you to use in the name of fun, and your sim gets a little red X over the young adult life stage as a reminder. in the case that you just really made a mistake and want your sim to not get an extra fear slot, just call up the college and drop out, and your sim just gets a little white X over the young adult life stage marker, as a reminder that they were too cool for school... or just too stupid.

Other advantages to going to university include extending your sim's life
naturally by almost thirty days without academic probation, the time to make
new friends, and increase base skills so you can start off higher on the
career ladder after you exit university. Sims who have traveled the full way
to graduation also retain several young adult exclusive social interactions
like the school cheer and those who graduate with honors get a good automatic
career boost that allows them to leap positions.

Along with this great new lifestage are other new things that revolve around it

1. There are many advantages in starting a sim out as a teen or younger, such as the extra time to gain skills and make friends, a good number is 11 so that they only need to make one to get the big sim on campus memory. Scholarships can help a lot in university, where a young adult sim will start out with only $500. Also, young adults already have the first kiss memory, so if you are looking to start a story about an innocent sim who goes completely insane and has her first kiss with a no good weirdo, well, its past that point. The
convenience of creating a young adult instead of a teen however is that you don't have to create their parental units in order for them to exist, so you can make them much easier without having to fill in extra space.

2. Scholarships: basically, your sim can earn money for being parentless(yep, killing the parents finally pays off), having 8+ skills in any area, have high pool(new object) or dance skills, being a zombie(more info later), being abducted by aliens, or being level 3 in a teen career. keeps you from going broke, and then hey, since we are wasting all of our time gaining scholarships, our story about innocent sim turned freak can have her woohoo with someone before they have their very first kiss. which is actually a bit hard, but do-able. oh yea, and an A- or better sim gets a scholarship. you need to use a phone or pc to apply for scholarships, or having the skills doesnt help.

3. There are two ways to send your sims to university, through the
phone/computer, or the "Move Sims To University" button on the neighborhood
menu. They both have their advantages and disadvantages.

4. Housing
Dorms: Basically, your sim runs to claim a door, and gets a puny room with just enough space for a single bed, desk, and a wardrobe.

Normal house: Nothing new really about them, except teh cost something like a third of the normal price because your are "renting" it. once inside, everything costs the same.

Greek houses: your uni sims can start a greek house and live in it.

There are a lot more things that can be said about colleges, but I need to be somewhere soon, so moving on.

The top of the new careers:
Once you get to the top of these careers, your sims have less work days/hours, and more money.

The new career rewards:
Du Vu's Thingy: ignoring the fact that every sim already has tons of botox in them, you can give your sim a complete makeover once acheiving level 6, show biz. basically, you can change everything about a simn except eyes and skin if this is used with a mirror.

Cow Plant: The long names plant that looks like a cow, that creates light green spectors of your annoying visitors. just stick it on your sims front porch, and your loner sim will never be bothered again! After 12 hours this level 6 Nat. Sci. reward, it sticks a peice of cake on its tounge every twelve hours to attract sims to their doom. and dont worry, it always wins.

Resurect-o-nomitron: a sims ticket to their second life. If you dont pay enough, you may get a zombie, which isnt any big deal, except that you have to kill them off for them to die, and they have a rather crappy personality. fortunatly or unfortunatly, depending on whether or not you are satan, maxis made it impossible to create a child zombie. too bad. tear tear.

Luminous Pro Antique Camera: Take pictures of a blank wall, and sell them for $100 bucks! Yea!!!

New Objects:
There are many new objects in the game, includingg additional excersise machines, guitars, drums, bonfires, punch bowl, ect.

Influence: If you have ever thought that NPC and townie sims are overly disposable good for nothing space wasters, then influence wont change anything there, but if you happen to enjoy watching them suffer, forcing them to do all your work, and making them do things against their will, as opposed to using your influence to right all the worlds wrong, then yea, influence is pretty fun >:) Influence points can be gained by fulfilling wants with a blue rim around them. You need more friends, not part of the family, to be able to hold more influence points, the max being 12 friends for 10,000 points. Of special note, if you feel like breaking a trash compatctor or dishwasher, a sim with low mechanical skill is likely to light up like a christmas tree, sorta the sim version of what could possibly happen if you use out of game programs and your game blows up into a firey blue ball visible from space, but thats besides the point.

Lifetimewants: your sims can now have a life time want, which is a want that lasts for life until it is fulfilled, giving your sims permaplatinum levels. therefore, you platinum legacy graves are not worth as much. sims get something like 25k aspiration points and 10k influence points. you can see this by hovering over the aspiration meter. of special note, the family aspiration LTW are hell, so if you get lucky and get the golden aniversery want or become captain hero want, dont change aspirations. also, uni careers are supposedly a LTW, but I have never seen them. what does this tell us about listening to gossip children? moving on.

ok... you can also move sims into an existing household. therefore, you can merge your super rich family with your super poor family for a super rich family. or put all career rewards on one lot and make a training station. how cool is that?

Now, for the big fun part, glitches. I ahve never really experienced glitches, and I play with like a thousand hacks. and the patch, but those a compatible with everything. read what you are installing and compatibility before you install, and your game is 95% less likely to blow up into a big fiery blue ball visible from space. of note however, is that upon 2 children of one family graduate, one had lost the went to college memory, and the other had a memory of graduating summa cum laude(which happened) and cum laude, which didnt. yea, the only thing that even comes close to the horror of the jump bug(like when your sim family with 10 kids forgets they had teh kids and are married) is the cow plant, but we all laugh at the dying sims anyway. So thats about it, overall, this is a great game totally worth getting, even though sometimes college seems to take a while.