Amazon.com Customer Reviews
Is Jay Concepcion a Makita Rep.? - Review written on February 25, 2006
Rating: 1 out of 5
15 customers found this review helpful, 2 did not.
Please disregard the 1 Star rating. I don't even own this saw. It's just that I'm sick and tired of reading manufacturers advertisements and rebuttals to their competitors "reviews" in these forums. Jay Concepcion, please clarify for me: You reviewed both the 1013 and 1013L less than a month apart. First you say you have no use for a laser as part of your 1013 review, then less than a month later you're writing a review for the 1013L (same as 1013 but with a laser). By the way, when you write your review for the next Makita saw you might as well just include a link to the Makita website. Let's see now....how many Makita saws do you own now? 42? I'm sick of all of these manufacturer's reps. convoluting "consumer" review forums everywhere. I need to buy a sliding dual bevel miter saw right away. I don't have time to weed through all of the bogus "reviews" to find actual end-user reviews. I don't know that I can trust any review, any where, any more. How can anyone rely on any of the reviews on this website or any other for honest, unbiased and objective information from actual end users? I'm curious, why are these reps. so quick to discount all of the professional review sources that use actual craftsmen to test their saws in head-to-head comparisons? What better way is there to separate performance and quality of fit and finish issues than a hands-on comparison? If tools are tested against one another and rated based upon the results, then the only thing left to determine is their actual durability in the field over time.
A true "end-user" of a tool should give me real, useable feedback that would be useful in making a purchasing decision. I don't need a manufacturer's rep. to cut and paste from their brochures and try to pass it off as a review. This is a note to all of you reps.! Please let the real consumers use forums like this to exchange true information regarding our actual experiences with the tools in question and let the best tools win.
TECHNICALLY PERFECT MITRESAW - Review written on December 02, 2005
Rating: 5 out of 5
7 customers found this review helpful, 2 did not.
After getting fed up with all of the gimmicks and hype of most of the current mitresaws, I finally decided it was time to get a saw that could do the job consistently and accurately. I purchased the Makita ls1013 and won't go back to any other brand period.
Let me start off by telling you why this saw is the one of the best selling saws of all time (with good reason)! This is the only saw on the market with three bearings that support the slide rail system. Everyone else uses one linear ball-bearing and one bushing, while Makita uses all linear ball bearings plus one more than the competition! So with (all bearing construction, no bushings) nothing to wear out and adjust, its no wonder why this saw continues to be regarded with the best "slide action" available today! They are also self-cleaning rails as well. The turn-table is big, larger than about 90% of the saws available! The only saws with big tables are Porter-Cable, Ridgid, and Delta, etc. DeWalt, Hitachi, Bosch, etc. all have small turn-tables. The advantage of this is to help support larger stock. It has the deepest saw extensions available (distance from fence forward, not the length of extension). Most saws have saw supports that attach to the side(s) of the saw (made of usually steel rod). This is good, as it adds more support to a work piece. Unfortunately, most are only 3 to 4 inches deep, while Makita's are 7 to 8 inches deep. So the saw can support wider boards easier than most others. For example if you look at the Bosch 4410L extensions vs. Makita's you'll see the difference! By the way, the Makita extensions are standard, most everyone else is like a $40.00 add-on. The turn-table turns really nice and smooth; it allows easy positioning of mitre angles. A lot of other saws tend to bind and screech after prolonged use (smoothness is appreciated).
The bevel action and stops are second to none. Out of the box the accuracy of the bevels and mitres are right on the money. I have used all other slider brands and have found Makita's consistency impeccable! The fence, and no one has this feature, allows the vertical clamp (comes standard) to be positioned in 5 places. This is great for when having to make a variety of cuts. It actually makes cutting safer. I bought another vertical clamp so both sides have one. The right-sided mitre scale is a little weird, and takes time to get used to. But since the degree markings are big, it allows for easy adjustment. I have found that the saw does not slip into the detents when wanting to make 1/2 degree cuts off detent mitres (e.g. 90.5 degrees)! This is great for finish work. The left-sided flip fence is good for doing 4 inch crown moulding; and flips out of the way when not needed!
The handle position is nice for right and left-handed operation! Power-head deflection (side-to-side) movement is non-existent. This is great because having a saw that makes wavy cuts due to head-slop is not a good thing. Adjustments: bevel, fence, blade changes, can be made quickly and efficiently using the handy (provided) 13 mm wrench; I can change the blade in under a minute flat-all with one tool, not two or three. The front knob is great for stopping the slide action if need be. I can turn the slider into a chopsaw at the turn of a knob. It is the only saw to come with a small plastic triangular set-square to help calibrate the saw when needed. Use this square to setup the bevel (90 degree) and 45 degree left / right bevel; with this square and the 13 mm wrench it takes only minutes to calibrate, not hours like MOST other saws. If you have ever noticed how some saws tip when you use them; the large footprint of the Makita prevents such issues.
There are a couple of downers with this machine though. The right fence is only 1 1/8 inch tall, so for large work you may need to add a piece of RUSSIAN BALTIC BIRCH as a fence, or buy the Makita sub-fence if you want to. Also, the saw does not go up to 60 degrees! But other than that, the saw is as close to perfect as one can get! There is the version with the laser, LS1013L (15 amp motor not 13 amp), this the same saw but with the laser, you cannot go wrong with either. I personally found no use for the laser so that is why I bought the jus the LS1013; I admit though that it is a nice feature!
I put a Ridge Carbide RS-1000, 80 tooth, slider blade on and the cuts could NOT be better! Even better than a Forrest Chopmaster and Miter Master! I own all three blades! I have cut everything under the sun: 5/4 walnut, 19 mm Baltic birch, 2 x 12's, 4 x 4's, and even teak, with absolutely no bogging down or struggling-this saw has the muscle and endurance to go the distance! I have owned belt driven sliders (dewalt and bosch)before and from my own personal experience, they do NOT have the power of direct-drive saws. Where Makita's hypoid (45 degree angle, direct-drive motor) provides ample power for even the most demanding jobs. And at 13 AMP it won't trip your breakers either. It is also quieter than most sliders too! Do yourself a favour and buy the right machine for your needs; getting the MAKITA LS1013 will actually enhance your woodworking experience!
** I am NOT a makita rep. I just give honest opinions of what I think about the saw's characteristics. I do apologize if I am too pro Makita, but as compared to what is currently available, I personally feel it is the best saw (for the reasons that I have stated). Also, the technical information I give is not in any other on amazon.com!
If you have a problem using this saw, well, it ain't the saw. - Review written on June 25, 2005
Rating: 5 out of 5
15 customers found this review helpful, 1 did not.
I did a lot of homework before settling on this saw. Actually, I settled on the saw before even begining my research. I had used the Makita 10" saw at a couple of different jobs, and knew I wanted one. I just had to check out the field before dropping $400.00.
I have many friends in the construction business, guys that use and abuse tools for a living. Every one of them reaffirmed what I already knew: Makita tools in general, and Makita miter saws in particular stand out above all others. The old guys at every hardware store (always talk to the older guys) I visited recommended the LS1013, or the LS1212 above the other brands, and usually the 10" Makita over the 12". I have a friend that uses a Hitachi miter saw, but even he prefers my Makita.
I own an entire fleet of makita tools, and have never had a single problem with any of them. Everything Makita makes kicks butt. I will give the jigsaw category to Bosch, though, and the nod in the worm drive saw category must surely go to the venerable Skil Mag 77. All my air nailers are Porter-Cable, and they also make some very good drills and sanders (but I like the Mak sanders better). Milkwaukee makes a great impact wrench and of course the ubiquitous Sawzall. Other companies make some good stuff, but Makita is always at the top in every category. If all you buy is blue, you'll probably be OK.
Operation of the LS1013 is incredibly smooth and very precise. All the parts are well made, solid, durable, and function well. It's like a sports car for woodworking. Nothing on it feels flimsy at all. The Bosch saws that I looked at in the store all had broken plastic pieces from just being handled on the display table! This saw has no laser guide, but I think most woodworkers consider a laser guide on a saw to be unnecessary at best, and at worst a silly gimmick or even a liability. I for one don't trust lasers more than my eyes and my square. It is so ridiculously easy to line up a cut with this saw, that laser could not help at all, and would simply be a potential weak point in the system. I read a review from a fellow who seems to think the Makita saw is responsible for injuring his hand. This guy could maybe benefit from a laser. If the little red line is on your hand- don't cut! Actually, this guy should probably stick to prefab, snap-together Walmart projects and leave the sharp tools alone.
My LS1013 was dead-on accurate right out of the box. Cuts are right on target, adjustments are easy and intuitive. Markings are clear and the action is flawless and glass smooth. I didn't even bother to try the dust bag, instead I simply inserted the hose from my smaller ShopVac into the dust collector outlet on the saw. Very little dust escapes this system. The stock blade cuts very nicely, and does not need to be immediately upgraded, as on many other models. That'll save you another hundred bucks right there. Still, as easy as the machine is to use- read the manual, so you will not accidentally bugger up your machine or yourself being stupid. The guys that complain about the adjustments or locks going out have obviously done something wrong and misused the saw. There is simply no way that the adjustments can fail under proper use. Even years of heavy use. It is high performance tool, let it do the work. You don't have to wrench down on the locks or throw the table through adjustments and into detents. You don't have to baby it, either-just treat it right and it will do the same for you.
Bottom line: Save yourself some time and maybe money by buying this saw. You don't need to read the reviews- go handle the saws at the store. The Makita will simply feel like a rock solid, precision instrument, because that is what it is. The competition really only are in competition with each other, not the Makita saws. You really can't go wrong with this saw. Best $400.00 I ever spent. You know you want it....
switch to another - Review written on March 27, 2005
Rating: 2 out of 5
8 customers found this review helpful, 10 did not.
This has been, plainly put, the least reliable power tool I've owned. It was okay for the first year or so when I used it to install crown molding and cabinet trim during a kitchen remodel. However, one day it started running intermittently, cutting out and then powering up again, and then it just quit. I went to the local authorized Makita repair shop, bought a switch, and installed it myself (not a tough job). That switch worked for awhile, then it quit as well. I let the saw sit while I bought a third switch, but before installing that switch, I tried the second switch again. It worked. It continued to work for a couple of months, then the saw quit altogether, this time during a fencing job. I ended up doing all cuts freehand with a Skilsaw Mag 77 (now there's a good tool!).
I installed the third switch in the Makita, and it didn't work at all. I'm about to give up.
I asked the guy at the shop if this type of problem is common. He retorted with, "Why do you think I have so many switches in stock?" Really, the saw is accurate and ergonomic. It's also frustratingly temperamental, and no one has time for this kind of problem. Time to get rid of it and get a DeWalt or a Ridgid.
better than most - Review written on February 18, 2005
Rating: 4 out of 5
14 customers found this review helpful, 2 did not.
I used to have a Bosch, the Bosch positive stops were 1/16" out of square on 12". Also, the switch gave out, and the motor got weaker with 1 year of use. I decided to sell it b4 it conked out, and replace it with this one. After owning this one for 6 months of every day use (in a professional cabinet shop) here is my take.
Pros:
Quiet smooth operation
Very accurate
Soft start a must for detail work
Motor angled, allows easy viewing of work
Cons:
Wimpy miter lock knob/slide lock knob
Inadequate fence system, I've wished many times over it has a flip-down fence system at least 2-1/4" high on both sides of the blade. Flip down fence stop on right side broke when saw blade jammed on a small piece of wood. Would not have happened if it wasn't aluminum.
I'm not sure yet if there is any sliding miter saw that has it all, I've used Dewalts from other contractors on installations and they aren't really "my cup of tea." I don't have extensive experience with the Hitachi, my uncle-in-law has one and he seems to like it.
A really nice tool. - Review written on September 08, 2004
Rating: 5 out of 5
9 customers found this review helpful.
I have a small shop where I make furniture and childrens toys. I shopped around for a while in search of a good compound miter saw. I was looking for a saw with the least lateral deflection, and that could accurately crosscut wide boards. After visiting my local home center stores, I wasn't very impressed by the quality of the Rigid, Hitachi or the Dewalt. They seemed to have a lot of deflection, and the Hitachi handle had a plastic creak that I didn't care for. They were also 12" blade models, which is overkill for my small shop, and the price soars around $600.
After ordering my saw from amazon, I recieved it within a few days using the free shipping. I unpacked it, and tried it out. The 90 degree cut was off a degree or two. I found the screws that hold the positive stop, and set it perfectly.
Now I have completed three medium sized projects, and I am very happy with the performance and value of this saw. I am able to cross-cut one inch planks that are over 12 inches wide. The table and the fence are ample, the slides work well, and the angle settings are easy to read and adjust. The cut quality even with the factory blade is superb with hard and soft woods. The saw is very quiet, easy to use, and even has a small lamp to help see your cut lines (No laser though).
I love this saw, and it has become part of the family of tools in my shop. I would recommend it to anyone.
If I had a second chance ... - Review written on July 07, 2004
Rating: 4 out of 5
2 customers found this review helpful, 3 did not.
I just got the Hitachi C10FSH a week ago, everything is good ecept the noise. I don't know what went wrong in design process,
this saw is only 12amp but the noise is much louder than the DeWALT 708 and MAKITA LS1212 they are both 15amp. My ex boss have 2 MAKITAS they works really good. I stopped at the local store to take a close look at the MAKITA LS1013, it is a good saw,it has everything the Hitachi does, it is Made in America.You'll get a 14.4-volt cordless drill/driver kit free after mail-in rebate when you purchase this miter saw. The reason I didn't give it a 5 star rate because it isn't belt drive which the other reviewer said that the motor touch the work piece when you make right bevel, I don't know it is true or not, you'd better take a look yourself. If I had a second chance , this saw would be my choice.
Doesn't hold up. - Review written on June 29, 2004
Rating: 2 out of 5
20 customers found this review helpful, 4 did not.
I'm a contractor who demands a lot from my tools. I've owned the Makita LS1013 for 3+ years and am in the market for a new saw. I really liked the saw's features when I first purchased it, but I had to bring it in to a Makita repair shop within the first year. Ever since it has been on the road to ruin. I've had it worked on five times having had the miter locking mechanism replaced twice, the safety switch replaced twice (it falls out and gets lost - I now have a screw in its place), the fence replaced once (now needing its second replacement), switch replaced; miter bearing track under the table replaced twice (again the aluminum against steel thing); etc....
Positives of the saw: Tilted Motor (convenient & powerful), self cleaning sliders, wide base.
Negatives: Miter locking mechanism is a threaded steel rod going into aluminum housing which quickly strips (I'm on #3); aluminum fence warps (I'm on #2 and now need #3 - I think this is due to seasonal temperature changes it experiences in the back of my pick-up truck); rear bevel lock requires clearance deeper than the table; slop in the miter angle detents (they wear out).
I would recommend this saw to cabinetmakers, picture framers and those who have a shop set-up. For people like me who need a saw to hold up from job-site to job-site, this isn't your saw. Beware of too many features and too much aluminum, it just means there is more to go wrong. I'd gladly trade in the weight of a cast iron base and fence saw like they used to make because they hold up. For now, I'm going back to the Hitachi (not the version with the laser).
Keep in mind, power tools made today are priced low because they are considered disposable. I suppose 3 years of everyday use might be considered a decent life span against the money it has allowed me to make. Still, I'd prefer fewer features for longevity and toughness.