Agile Principles, Patterns, and Practices in C# (Robert C. Martin Series) Reviews



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Excellent coverage for the C# domain - Review written on February 13, 2008
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Rating: 5 out of 5

Very readable, entertaining, useful. One of the few books that has been easy to follow and enjoyable to read. Very good general coverage.
Read It! - Review written on February 11, 2008
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Rating: 5 out of 5
1 customer found this review helpful.

I have purchased and read alot of books on software design and development over the years and I cannot think of a single one of them that I would rate higher than this one.
The other reviewers are brown nosers - Review written on May 07, 2007
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Rating: 1 out of 5
17 customers found this review helpful, 4 did not.

This book pretty much stinks. There is nothing C# about it. It doesn't leverage any of the advanced features, the examples are weak. Reviewers and some programmers who are so turned on by words like "agile, patterns, etc.." will find to be "cool" or an intellectual" this is a must have.

Oh brother, I read this and I was like "this is the same Robert Martin rehashed junk just translated into C#" [Not even a decent translation]. You'll find them also telling Microsoft developers how they shouldn't name interfaces with a capital I.

On the contrary, I am glad they did, I like to peruse my object browser and easily see the differences, it helps me a lot. Their pompous attitude is displayed in the preface trying to diss C# developers.

Don't get me wrong, I respect Java developers like Martin Fowler, Kent Beck, etc.. But they have intelligent things to say in their books and are not condescending. This book has nothing of real importance that can't be found in my much better books by better authors and who know and leverage the power of C#. These authors simply don't know C#.

I realize the premise was on agile pracices, patterns, etc...while just using C#. Wouldn't you rather learn these things from real professional .NET developers like Francesco Balena, Trey Nash?

I know I sound harsh [and will take a lot of flack I'm sure by some newbie or even perhaps a few skilled] but this book does not deserve the praise it has been getting, plain and simple. It's not quite as bad as C# Design Patterns by james Cooper [which is pathetic, to say the least], but it is not good enough to buy from the lowest seller from Amazon.

My top recommended books:
1. "Accelerated C#" by Trey Nash
2. "Programming .NET Components" by Juval Lowy
3. "Test Driven Development in Microsoft .NET"
4. "Head First Design Patterns" [in Java but good]
5. "CLR Via C#" by Jeffrey Richter
6. "Code Complete" [Much better on practices then this book]
7. "Pro C# 2008 and the .NET 3.5 Platform" [Excellent]
8. "Framework Design Guidelines"
9. "WCF" by Juvy Lowy [Advanced stuff, but excellent]
10. "Pro LINQ Language Integrated Query in C# 2008"
Excellent - Review written on April 29, 2007
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Rating: 5 out of 5

Simply the best treatment of object oriented design, patterns and practices I have ever read. Extremely well organized and easy to read. Should be in every software engineer's library.
Well done, with one exception - Review written on April 19, 2007
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Rating: 4 out of 5
12 customers found this review helpful, 2 did not.

First, this book is well written and presents information in a constructive manner. It is well thought out, and is not just another C#/OOP/XP book.

Now for the bad news. One unnecessary oversight is the use of casts and "object" in some examples. Any author writing any C# book since 2005 must know that these idioms should no longer be encouraged. It is unacceptable for a book published in February 2007 to possess this flaw.

Generics, used in moderation, result in cleaner code that is also type-safe, and usually performs better due to the absence of boxing/unboxing. The authors should consider posting alternative examples that favor Generic types and collections on their errata web page. If you purchase this book, you would be well-advised to review the examples with a bias against the use of casts and the word "object".

To be entirely frank, I don't see how other reviewers can justify a five star rating.
Great title for OOP and Agile Methods - Review written on January 16, 2007
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Rating: 5 out of 5
2 customers found this review helpful, 1 did not.

This book teaches both OOP and agile methods. The two are independent! The authors provide a brief introduction to UML as well. Some prior knowledge of fundamental OOP concepts such as inheritance and polymorphism are assumed. This is not a critical analysis of Agile or OOP. The book does not explain how agile methods can scale. That may be deficiency of agile methods. The book is blunt about Use Case Diagrams: useless (pardon the pun); with which I cannot agree more.
Except for one twenty-person project I worked on, I would advocate Agile for all the smaller projects I have done in recent years. I would highly recommend the book for all C# developers. Java developers would be better of with the previous Java version of the book.
Critical work on design and development - Review written on December 13, 2006
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Rating: 5 out of 5
13 customers found this review helpful, 2 did not.

This book is amazingly great from start to finish. All the basics of good agile development are covered clearly and sensibly in the first section: what agile is, how to go about it, why testing and planning are so critical, and where refactoring fits in all of this. Design and general patters are hit in the second section, again in a clear, concise, and sensible fashion -- and with common sense thrown in.

The final two sections cover a real-world case study implementation of a payroll system. Here the rubber meets the asphalt: walking through use cases, building transactions based on smartly-chosen patterns, discussion of what patterns make sense where and why, implementation, packaging, and evolution.

I found myself shaking my head in wonder as I read this book and stumbled across one nugget of gold after another. Some bits of goodness pop out in the middle of nowhere simply because the authors are so well-versed in their domain that they're letting fly wisdom even when discussing other topics. An example of this is in the XP pairing session episode where some discussion of increment operator side effects is tossed in the middle of another discussion stream. You read that section once and pass over it, only to do a head check, bounce back and re-read it while nodding your head and saying "Yeah, that's absolutely right and I might not have caught that otherwise."

Another bit of greatness is the chapter on UML. The authors are emphatic about keeping UML tightly in check and using it only in specific cases where it makes clear sense. Mountains of UML diagrams are not the answer; the authors show where a few concise diagrams make perfect sense.

More goodness can be found throughout the book in the gems relating to any number of design issues such as a small example of a problem the authors put forth to students of their various design/patterns courses: build a coffee maker. The authors go through the most common result they see and show the specific problem areas of that solution -- and then show a solution that is amazing in its simplicity, elegance, and maintainability.

This book is a critical read for folks at any level of experience. I'm going to do my best to make sure it gets on the required reading list for developers at my company.
Absolutely required reading for every[...] - Review written on November 22, 2006
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Rating: 5 out of 5
10 customers found this review helpful, 2 did not.

Robert Martin is one of the smartest people I've ever talked with, and he is one of the best technical writers I've ever read.

This book is *the* most comprehensive and most valuable introduction and guide to Agile programming, with a full discussion of Agile principles, the "fourteen practices of eXtreme programming," full discussion of "spiking, splitting, velocity, iteration, test-driven development, refactoring, pair programming, five types of UML diagrams," and how to use all of this in real world .NET development.

There is no doubt in my mind that this book will make you a better programmer, will challenge you, will teach you, will take you beyond what you already know, and will entertain you along the way. Robert is as good as it gets.

This book is required reading. Do not hesitate.

Programmers will find the progressive, technical lessons and applications an important key to understanding - Review written on November 07, 2006
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Rating: 5 out of 5
2 customers found this review helpful, 2 did not.

Advanced developers will benefit from a book which packs in case studies to illustrate C# development and design routines, and will also appreciate the smooth move from UML models to C# code, which flow between initial logic and explanation to actual applications and upward migrations of skills levels. C# as well as Visual Basic or Java programmers will find the progressive, technical lessons and applications an important key to understanding the foundations of agile software principles and shared strengths.

Diane C. Donovan
California Bookwatch
Agile Methods and Practices clearly explained - Review written on October 31, 2006
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Rating: 5 out of 5
6 customers found this review helpful, 1 did not.

This book really covers two topics: Agile management methods and development practices used by agile team.

Section I, the description of the Agile methology is brief. This is obviously the intent of the author and agile is meant to be documenation-light. This section only consists of 100 pages. It's a quick read giving you everything you need to know to implement the Agile methodology in your team.

Section II, is titled "Agile Design". These chapters are high-level design principles with low-level examples and a thorough treatment of UML. This should have been split into two sections. This first, would be most useful for a beginner/intermediate developer to take their skills to the next level. The second part, is required reading/knowledge for any developer who needs to work with a team or who needs to plan a complex application.

Section III is presented as a case study. Under the guise of a desiging a payroll system, the authors present the most popular design patterns. This section depends on the previous sections and is a great example of the thought process of agile developers.

The book is well written and easy to read for intermediate to advanced developers. Beginning developers would stuggle with some sections. However, all levels would beneift from reading this book.
The book is one giant linked list - Review written on September 30, 2006
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Rating: 1 out of 5
41 customers found this review helpful, 23 did not.

Based on the (only) other 3 reviews on this site, I decided to read this book. However, like I mentioned above, the book is one giant Linked List - let me explain: In every chapter, they introduce a hitherto unexplained topic and ask you to leap forward 10 chapters to learn more about it - for eg:

From Chapter 9 - OCP: "Figure 9-1 shows a simple design that does not conform to OCP. [...] Figure 9-2 shows the corresponding design that conforms to the OCP by using the STRATEGY pattern (see Chapter 22)."

The whole book is filled with stuff like this. Another example: Right from Chapter 1 the book starts using UML - however the intro chapters on UML are laid out in Chapters 13-19. Totally beats me.

And there is nothing C-Sharpy (C#) about this book. There are some miniscule snippets which have been converted to C#. Nothing in the book leverages the unique features of the language - It is as though a lexical analyzer took the old book, converted the Java snippets into C# and auto-published it.

I have spent over 6 hours with this book now and am at chapter 10 - and I dont feel that I have learnt anything significant of value - the same ol' XP, Agile story and a very shoddy treatment of patterns.

Nothing differentiates this book from the hordes of others out there. I think Accelerated C# 2005 by Trey Nash would be a much better alternative - atleast, in there, the authors don't snub the .NET programmers out there like in here:

Quoting from the preface:
"Teaching week-long courses on various software topics allows me to meet a wide cross-section of developers from around the world. Many of the students I've instructed were .NET programmers, and many were Java or C++ programmers. There's no gentle way to put this: In my experience, .NET programmers are often weaker than Java and C++ programmers. Obviously, this is not always the case. However, after observing it over and over in my classes, I can come to no other conclusion: .NET programmers tend to be weaker in agile software practices, design patterns, design principles, and so on. Often in my classes, the .NET programmers had never heard of these fundamental concepts."

I was willing to put up with all the opinionated commentry as long as the content was good - but now, I see no reason to have to eat their uncooked dogfood and be disrespected while doing so.

Anyone want this (almost brand-new) book for half price? :)
recasting of ideas in terms of C# - Review written on August 29, 2006
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Rating: 5 out of 5
4 customers found this review helpful, 2 did not.

In one sense, the book covers no new ground. The Agile principles and patterns discussed here have been well explained for two other languages, Java and C++, especially by Robert Martin in an earlier book.

What is offered here is a recasting in terms of C#. Which however has far fewer practitioners than the other languages. Some sections of the book are mostly independent of any language. Take the chapter on state diagrams for documenting finite state machines as one example. Or the other chapters on object diagrams, use cases, sequence diagrams and class diagrams. Some of these do have example code in C#. But inherently, they tend to stand above any language.

Some principles are quite useful, albeit perhaps to an advanced programmer. A good example is the chapter on Interface Segregation Principle. Basically, it's about how an interface can grow, if there are several child classes that implement it. The problem is when some classes need routines added to the interface, that other classes do not. So we get a fat interface. This creates a cross-coupling that is unneeded, and a potential source of errors. Something that you should try to minimise, for long term robustness and ease of code maintenance.
Excellent Resource for a broad range of topics - Review written on August 28, 2006
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Rating: 5 out of 5
2 customers found this review helpful, 2 did not.

As the other reviewer mentioned, this book is unique in its breadth. It does an excellent job of combining the development process with actual patterns and practices of development.

It gives a fairly thorough examination of each topic in a surprisingly small amount of words. It seems as though the authors have applied the principles of agility to their writing style. They do not overcomplicate things. They give you only the information that is required to cover the subject.

Overall, I agree with the writer of the forward. In General, .NET programmers are not as strong as other programmers. And this needs to change. This book can help that happen.
A must read - Review written on August 11, 2006
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Rating: 5 out of 5
8 customers found this review helpful, 4 did not.

This book is unique in that it covers software principles, metrics, patterns, packaging, design smells, UML, and agile programming practices all in one book.

It uses great real world examples, and has a ton of code with them. They are all explained very thoroughly.

What I like the most is he includes the mistakes usually made in real world environments and then works his way back onto the right path.

I read the Java version from cover to cover, although I do no Java. The contents are just to important to live without. Now that it is out in C# I am re-reading it from cover to cover.

If you develop using an OO language, you must read this book.