Cascading Style Sheets 2.0 Programmer's Reference Reviews



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Good reference, right level of examples - Review written on September 01, 2004
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Rating: 5 out of 5
7 customers found this review helpful, 2 did not.

This is good material. It is great as a reference and it escapes the danger of being as dry as a W3C specification. The examples are present and they are helpful enough to help digest the content. I used it as more than a reference but I can see that people may have a problem with it. Still, great for what it is.
CSS is rocket science - Review written on August 19, 2004
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Rating: 3 out of 5
12 customers found this review helpful, 3 did not.

The initial chapters of this book are more difficult to understand than the CSS2 standard, and make CSS seem like rocket science.

They assume you have the vocabulary of a member of the team that wrote the CSS2 standard. I know it is difficult sometimes for a writer to imagine himself as a reader of the book, but this book doesn't even try.

Skip the initial chapters and go right to the reference.
Good for reference - Review written on April 20, 2004
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Rating: 3 out of 5
9 customers found this review helpful, 5 did not.

This book is by no means an easy read and I would recommend it for reference only. In his writing, a lot of terms are not clearly explained (if at all) and I got lost many times (despite being very familiar with CSS).

If you are looking to learn CSS or just have a guide book, go elsewhere. As a reference book, this would be a good buy.

Useful Information, But Definitely Not For Beginners - Review written on January 29, 2004
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Rating: 4 out of 5
6 customers found this review helpful.

Since I've gotten this book, I've used it constantly as a reference for what I'll need within my detailed style sheets for my websites. It is extremely useful, but I would caution against beginning to intermediate level people using this book in high hopes of it showing how to use CSS effectively. The book clearly assumes that you have a proper understanding of CSS structure (only touching on it briefly within one section) and knowledge of what it requires within the context of HTML to make it work. None of this is clearly demonstrated. It is a resource akin to a dictionary when you're not sure of something's usage or meaning. In that sense, it is excellent. I would have liked, however, if there was some section for anticipated things within the progress of CSS (moving toward version 3.0 and any addendum aspects such as RUBY within the 2.0 scheme), so that developers and designers alike can 'think forward' for future sites and how they would be implemented.
Reference? Yes. Good? Yes! - Review written on December 24, 2003
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Rating: 5 out of 5
2 customers found this review helpful.

I normally don't write reviews, but recently this book has been helping me out a lot so I thought I'd share.

As someone previously familiar with CSS, and fluent in a slew of other web based languages I needed a book that had all of the information I needed about CSS so I didn't have to troll the web everytime I ran into a problem. Well, this book is it. Eric Meyer is known for being the man at CSS and this book is well written and concise. I'd recommend it to anyone using CSS, fluent or not.

Works for me - Review written on November 14, 2003
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Rating: 5 out of 5
4 customers found this review helpful.

Brief, clear, complete - just what I need. I used this to write my first style sheets, from no knowledge at all, in just a few minutes. It's very well organized; I can always find what I need in just a few seconds.

Even better, this has the information that HTML books tend to forget. Most mention HTML STYLE="" options in various of the formatting tags. None of the HTML books I've seen tell you what to put between the quotes. This book take the place of the chapter that should have been in my HTML book, but isn't.

A must have... - Review written on November 03, 2003
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Rating: 5 out of 5
5 customers found this review helpful, 1 did not.

To all you newbies, here's what you do. Go buy "Designing CSS Web Pages" by Schmitt at your local Barnes and Noble first. It's excellent. It will give you a good grasp of CSS. Return it within the 30 days and get this book. You'll have a good grasp of CSS in no time at all.
Wonderful pocket reference (not quite pocketsized though) - Review written on June 25, 2003
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Rating: 5 out of 5

Simple and sweet - good refence, easy lookup structure, fast answers. Anyone dealing with CSS should have this close by.
Great and Thorough Reference- say it out loud.... REFERENCE - Review written on May 01, 2003
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Rating: 5 out of 5
37 customers found this review helpful.

This is a reference book.
It says that in the title but some of the negative reviews on this book seem to have overlooked that. It is NOT a turorial. It is NOT going to be a magic book to give you all your ideas so you don't have to think and have good design skills.

What it is...
A really good, thorough, reference book on CSS2. This guy knows his stuff and presents it clearly and without any clutter. It is laid out so you can easily find every element, property, and atribute there is. Sure you could go to the World Wide Web Consortium's web site for the info, but when you're in the middle of coding - a good REFERENCE book is still tops for getting info fast. And in my opinion, the layout of the book makes more sense than the w3's web site (though it is valuable too).

To those just starting with CSS-
This book may be hard to grasp at first. Buy it anyway. Find a few web sites to get the basics down because this will be the book you'll want to have after your first week, when what you need is a reference and not a dumbed down overworded tutorial with examples that don't fit your application anyway.

Essential Reference to an Essential Tool - Review written on March 06, 2003
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Rating: 5 out of 5
5 customers found this review helpful.

If you are ready to make your web design life easier and commit to using style sheets (CSS), then this volume belongs on your desk. Even using GoLive or Dreamweaver, the time comes when you need to tweak things yourself and pick out the exact formatting tags and know their implications for difference browsers your readers may use. Every book I've seen on LEARNING CSS is not comprehensive the way Meyer's "Reference" volume is.

Of course, it IS a reference volume - not an introduction. Therefore (as some reviewers note) even the introductory material is not sufficiently elementary for the novice. The word REFERENCE is in the title, however, so I don't fault this book for not providing what it didn't promise to provide. So, beginners, feel free to buy the book now - because you'll want it to refer to. But get your grounding in a more basic book. Meyer's 2000 "Cascading Style Sheets: The Definitive Guide" could use its second edition, but is a great way to begin when you have this "Reference" volume to check the latest info on CSS and browsers supported.

And, if you're need persuading to minimize your HTML and move forward with Style Sheets, at least skim the first couple chapters of Owen Briggs. et al.'s "Cascading Style Sheets: Separating Content from Presentation" (ISBN 1904151043 ) They quickly helped me see why not to waste time and power on mere HTML when I'm involved in a complex web site - especiallly when growth and adaptations are planned over the years.

Best CSS2 quick reference I have - Review written on February 24, 2003
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Rating: 5 out of 5
13 customers found this review helpful, 1 did not.

Now this is my kind of book, a well stocked reference without all the fluff that usually comes with the explaination of each new idea or concept. You know the sort, a book that you can refer to again and again after learning the basics because it is well organised and laid out. Of course, the reference only style of Cascading Style Sheets 2.0: Programmer's Reference is not really suited to those that are completely new to the topic. Having said that, those familiar with the idea of style sheets might be able to put something together if they mix and match the numerous examples.

Unfortunately there are very few illustrations or screen shots to help you grasp difficult ideas, which sometimes results in long and wordy descriptions of the various properties. I found myself skimming over such busy paragraphs because I knew the idea they were trying to describe, but anyone unfamiliar with the ideas may find themselves getting frustrated trying to work out exactly what it is that is being said. A few more well placed illustrations would have made it easier to use.

Another thing that annoyed me was the repetition of paragraphs while detailing the properties. While I can understand the need to repeat the paragraphs (after all, it is a reference book!), it did get rather tired, particularly when looking up related properties or attributes.

Despite these little annoyances, it makes an ideal quick reference book. The headings and text are clear, the pages easy to scan and alphabetical ordering makes it easy to find attributes by name. There is no obvious distinction between CSS1 and CSS2, but important differences in implementation of the two are pointed out when relevant.

The best reference guide to CSS2 - Review written on December 13, 2002
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Rating: 5 out of 5
13 customers found this review helpful, 1 did not.

I bought this book several months ago when I first started out using Cascading Style Sheets. I had come across Eric Meyer's work when I visited his web site (meyerweb.com) and I was deeply impressed with the demonstrations he gave, particularly when toying with "position: fixed".

Every CSS rule is covered, including print and aural rules. Each rule is given a sophisticated explanation and a few examples. I have several books on CSS, but none come close to explaining the details of each rule as well as Mr Meyer's work.

I always have my copy with me when styling pages. The book is quite small, which means it can happily sit on the desk with the keyboard where can be accessed easily.

I VERY strongly recommend that designers have a copy. It is particularly important for those who use CSS frequently.

Unreadable - Review written on November 17, 2002
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Rating: 1 out of 5
3 customers found this review helpful, 21 did not.

Granted, I'm not a real programmer, but I have learned basic HTML pretty well, so I thought it was time I'd move on to more sophisticated stuff. Bought this book read the first two chapters on a plane and couldn't make heads or tails of it. I really don't think it is how dumb I am or how difficult the language is, just how badly structured the book is.

My two biggest complaints are that 1) he doesn't define his terms well before he uses them in context and 2) the book has virtually no examples of what it's talking about.

Chapter 1 is called "Basic CSS Concepts," but rather than laying out a whole framework and big-picture vision of how CSS works, he just plunges straight into specific commands immediately and stays at that granular level of detail throughout the book. It was terribly annoying that essential terms and concepts weren't really explained clearly up front; he just starts using terms specific to CSS without adequately defining them. It may become clear several pages later, but I found myself constantly wondering what the heck he was talking about.

Visual examples would have helped tremendously, but there are virtually none. It's a pretty hard to learn what is essentially a language for visual display in purely conceptual examples of lines of code. No screenshots anywhere in the book of how the effects that he's describing will be rendered in a browser. For that matter, he rarely even has large blocks of code so you can see how a series of commands he's talking about flow and function when strung together. Instead, it's just individual samples of commands, one line of code at a time. I don't know how I missed this when I flipped thru the book at a bookstore.

I learned HTML primarily from Dave Taylor's "Creating Cool HTML 4," which I found, breezy, conversational and easy to read. By comparison, Meyer's CSS book reads like a physics text book.

I've now bought Keith Schengili-Roberts's "Core CSS," which I haven't yet started reading, but at least I can see it has lots of sample screenshots, and he seems to take his time more explaining what he's talking about (it's a much bigger book, in format and pages, and twice the price).

A Book - about sums it up...... - Review written on September 11, 2002
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Rating: 1 out of 5
2 customers found this review helpful, 16 did not.

The book is for the really, really just starting beginner. I bought this book thinking that it may answer some of my questions concerning CSS. Instead, it just confirmed everything I already knew. The book was nothing from cover to cover. It not for the compatibility charts in the back the book would be totally worthless (still going to return it though). If I could give this book a negative rating, I would!
Excellent reference, but a bit cryptic though. - Review written on April 23, 2002
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Rating: 4 out of 5
1 customer found this review helpful.

My respects to Mr. Meir, he really knows his stuff. Could use some more examples to illustrate simple rules, and less theory. But nonetheless, an excellent reference. A definite recommend for any would be web designer/developer or HTMinimaList.
A truly complete reference of CSS. - Review written on March 15, 2002
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Rating: 5 out of 5
5 customers found this review helpful.

This is a wonderfully organized reference of CSS. It covers every aspect of CSS. There are both short and clear explanations and examples for every feature, so even if you not familiar with the specific feature about which you are reading, The feature details would tell you in short: what it does, how it does it, and where, when and how you can and should use it.
The indexs of the book would direct you to the feature you are looking for in a few seconds at most !
As I already said, it is a great reference and now an indespensible tool for my web development work.
I recommend it to anyone with even a little experience in CSS, that takes web development seriously.
It's what it says it is - Review written on March 06, 2002
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Rating: 5 out of 5
8 customers found this review helpful.

The book calls itself "The Most Authoritative Quick Reference for Programmers"...it is. I've been lucky enough to be writing CSS since its beginnings and this book is right now the most current and definitive resource I can find for CSS. Echoing other comments, this is not for beginners. Get Jason Teague's DHTML/CSS Visual Quickstart book if you need a beginner's book. This book, in hand with Bradsoft's TopStyle Pro 2.5+ on your desktop, and you'll be doing what the book says: *programming* with CSS. If you're designing web application GUIs, you need this book. It's a cinch buy with Eric Meyer's name as the author. This volume also bookends quite nicely with the JavaScript Bible by Danny Goodman. One negative note: the organization of this book leaves a little bit to be desired...the black printed "tab" sections are not intuitive. I have purchased stick-on tabs to mark specific sections for quick location.

The opinions expressed above are personal and do not represent Mr. Sobkoviak's employers or clients.

Cascading Style Sheets 2.0 Programmer's Reference - Review written on October 30, 2001
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Rating: 5 out of 5
6 customers found this review helpful.

Serious CSS developing without this book? Not a good idea...

This book is the natural sequel to "Cascading Style Sheets: The Definitive Guide" and lists the CSS2 properties and values, combined with important information to each feature.

As each Eric Meyer book, it is clear, precise and competent.

A fine reference - Review written on June 21, 2001
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Rating: 5 out of 5
1 customer found this review helpful, 1 did not.

This little reference is excactly what a CSS reference should be, including bug- and compatibility information for Netscape 4/6, IE 4/5/5.5 and Opera 3/4/5. The only small drawback I can think of is that I occasionally find it a little difficult to find the information I need. It is there, but sometimes you have to jump a little around between different sections in the book, before you have all the information you're looking for. To make it absolutely perfect you could add information about other alternative browsers, mostly I'm thinking about Konqueror. But these are minor subjects.

This is no tutorial, but it is a fine reference. I don't think I will be fair if I don't give it at least 4 stars, and I'm not really sure theres a good reason not giving it 5, so...

Authoritative: Yes! - Review written on April 29, 2001
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Rating: 5 out of 5

I've probably learned more about CSS from Eric Meyer than from any other single source. As a desktop reference, this book is a must-have for anyone serious about style sheets. The breakdown of styles into media categories: Visual; Paged; Aural. Outstanding!

While this book is not the place to start for a CSS newcomer (that would be Eric's other book!), it is the place to come for making sure you have the right property for the right browser, and for the right media.

Well done!

Authoritative, serious, concrete - Review written on April 04, 2001
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Rating: 5 out of 5
29 customers found this review helpful, 1 did not.

If either HTML or XML is a serious part of your livelihood, you need this book. With every property of CSS level 2 explained in a compact manner -including examples- the book can be a real time saver.

Eric's experience in the application of this advanced technique and his participation in the Web community is expressed in the organization and clarity of this book. No hand-holding tutorials here, just the facts and the context which gives those facts meaning.

And if that is not compact enough for you, Chapter 8 "CSS2 Quick Reference," condenses the material even more. Also handy is the lengthy chart on browser compatibility.

I can only fault the book for not going beyond its purpose. That is, the book covers the CSS specification properties only. In particular, styles implemented by Internet Explorer, which may be extremely handy yet not officially approved, are not covered.