I found these jeans to be (at first) to be the ultimate pant for someone that works on their knees all day. I am in the flooring business and for years used-up pants really fast. I tried the upland pants and found the nylon part of the pants to hold up very well, however the denim part is the same old thin material that wears and tears so easily with the regular wrangler pants. The top corners of the back pockets started to show wear after only 6 wash cycles and after 15 cycles the crotch ripped beyond my comfort level for the rest of the day on the job.